Even before Jim Delany said that expansion was "probable" yesterday, I had all but resigned myself to the fact that it was happening. And while I think the 65 team format is worlds better, it is what it is, and there are some things to like about the new format. We can complain about it now, but we all know that we will be watching the games.
That said, I have no problem ripping the NCAA. Today in Indianapolis, Greg Shaheen, the NCAA senior vice president of basketball and business strategies, spoke at a press conference and essentially told us that the NCAA Tournament would, in fact, be expanding.
Specifically, he said that formats for 65, 68, 80, and 96 team tournaments were discussed, but during the press conference he went deep into specifics about just the 96 team tournament. Shaheen spent a lot of time trying to justify expansion, giving a list of reasons that you no doubt have heard before. You can read the entire transcript here (and for hoop-heads like myself, it is more than worth it), but this is the part of the presser that had everyone talking. Here is the format for the 96 team event:The model that has been talked about a great deal, the 96-team model, looks as follows:
You notice he doesn't mention anything about the second week. John Feinstein called him on it, and the following took place:
It starts on the same day. Technically speaking it starts two days later than the current championship because it would eliminate the opening round game. Rather than starting on Tuesday, it would start on Thursday. Start at the same time as the current championship does. It would conclude on the same day. It would conclude on Monday that the current championship does, as well.
It would not require any more competition venues. In fact, it would require one fewer venues in terms of what we normally operate with now.
In terms of days away from class and time away from class and campus, the models that we have studied, depending on which you look at, offer an equal or lesser amount of travel and time away from campus based on a comparison model in looking at the 96-team model.Q. Greg, you laid out in great detail the travel schedule for the first week. Just so I'm sure I have it right, you're going to play the round of 64 Saturday/Sunday, correct?
So let me get this straight. We still have a BCS system because the NCAA doesn't want kids to miss additional class time for a football tournament, but they have no problem making the teams that advance in the basketball tournament miss a week of class? And correct me if I'm wrong -- I've been out of college for a couple of years -- but isn't this right when midterms usually occur? Explain to me how that makes any sense.
GREG SHAHEEN: Uh-huh.
Q. So you didn't lay out the travel schedule for the second week when presumably teams will be playing Monday/Tuesday, then winners would go almost directly to regionals on Thursday/Friday, if that's the schedule as I think it is.
GREG SHAHEEN: It's one of several models that exist. But actually it doesn't necessarily mean that the play continues on Monday/Tuesday. Actually, depending on the structure, there can be a break on Monday so that a team that, for example, is playing Saturday could play Saturday, then Tuesday. So they would have both Sunday and Monday without games.
You also have to keep in mind that on any day of competition, you're losing half the field. Half of the teams are losing and returning home. So, for example, in the first four days of the championship, whereas right now you go from 65 during that time to 16, here you go from 96 to 32. So the majority of teams by number will be back home at that point in time.
But then for the teams that do advance, they would play -- they could play that Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday, for example, going into regional week.
Q. To follow up, if you're going Saturday/Tuesday, Sunday/Tuesday then with the teams that advance if they're playing Saturday/Sunday games, right?
GREG SHAHEEN: They would play Saturday/Tuesday.
Q. So you're not going to play any games on Sunday of the first weekend?
GREG SHAHEEN: No. You'd play half the games on Saturday, half the games on Sunday.
Q. The Sunday teams that advance would play on Tuesday or are you saying Wednesday?
GREG SHAHEEN: Wednesday.
Q. Basically they'll be out of school an entire week the second week?
GREG SHAHEEN: Actually, if you were to look at the window for each individual team, you have to take each team and contemplate the fact right now you have half the field leaving campus on Tuesday, returning on Sunday or Monday.
Q. If they lose. I'm talking about the teams that win in advance. You're going to advance 16 teams.
GREG SHAHEEN: No, actually in the current model you have teams that depart on Tuesday, and even if they win, return on Sunday.
Q. We're misunderstanding each other. Under the new model that you laid out, you play 64 teams Thursday/Friday. 32 advance to games Saturday/Sunday. Then you are down after those games to 32 teams.
GREG SHAHEEN: Right.
Q. You're saying you play games in the round of 32 Tuesday/Wednesday. They would then advance to regionals when?
GREG SHAHEEN: They would continue into the regional as it's normally scheduled now.
Q. So they would go Tuesday to Thursday, Wednesday to Friday?
GREG SHAHEEN: Right.
Q. So they miss an entire week of school. That's what I'm trying to get.
GREG SHAHEEN: If you listened to my original answer, they leave now on Tuesday.
Q. I'm talking about the second week, not the first week. They play a game Saturday/Sunday, play a game Tuesday or Wednesday, then go directly to the regional. Tell me when in that second week they're going to be in class.
GREG SHAHEEN: The entire first week, the majority of the teams would be in class.
Q. You're just not going to answer the question about the second week. You're going to keep referring back to the first week, right? They're going to miss the entire second week under this model.
GREG SHAHEEN: So they're going to go to school the first week, and then they're --
Q. They're going to be under the same schedule you said basically the first week, and then they'll miss the entire second week.
GREG SHAHEEN: I'm clearly missing the nuance of your point.
Q. You and I miss nuances a lot. Thank you.
BOB WILLIAMS: Next question, please.
Did you notice in the transcript that Shaheen refused to directly answer the question of scheduling for that week?
And the NCAA isn't all about making money. Right.
At this point we should just call it like it is and pay these players.
For more analysis about the presser, check the twitter feeds of Pat Forde and Gary Parrish
Thursday, April 1, 2010
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